MDF 2000 - HOLEY SMOKES

[Derek DeFields]

nicely put Me2.

The video is from the tour in Europe a year after Document. Vinnie plays his ass off on it though. evern moreso than Document I'd say. The arrangement of I'm Tweaked is pretty ridiculous. (Vinnie plays straight over the loop in this arrangement and lets the loop do the displacement)

Maybe Randy has heard of this or seen it? I would ask him.

[chris perra]

to me2


maybe you should write to the organisers of the md 2002, or 2003 festival and put in a request form for what you want to hear from each drummer. that way you will get your moneys worth.

chris perra

[numeroUnoHODfan]

LOL @ CP,
didn't wanna reply, but boy that was phunnie...

[PencilZ]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=2 face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><table border="0" width="90%" bgcolor="#333333" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FF9900"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor=""><font size=2 face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by chris perra:
to me2


maybe you should write to the organisers of the md 2002, or 2003 festival and put in a request form for what you want to hear from each drummer. that way you will get your moneys worth.

chris perra</font></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>
Good idea chris i might just do that. Perhaps we could have an anti-badmouthing drummers chapter on the said dvd?
First person to keep a clean sheet at the end of the yr gets a florence nightingale dress.
Guess were all out then! [img]tongue.gif[/img]

erm....My post clearly says..I got my moneys worth. Doh!

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ December 22, 2002 11:27 AM: Message edited by: Me2 ]</font>

[FuseU1]

BOYZ! BOYZ! [img]smile.gif[/img]
That was some darn funny 'dialogue', tho [img]tongue.gif[/img]
Nothin like a good, flamin laff!!
Ummmm...it's kinda funny [about the "VC looks stiff" thing, again!] - funny how the eyes will play trix on us, 'cuz...when I listen to his playin, i don't "see stiff" at all [img]wink.gif[/img] ....

[chris perra]

needs more meat though... eh?

[PencilZ]

Money well spent but hey, would you complain if ya got more vinnie than the shelf stacker?

Right, wheres the vegetables section? [img]wink.gif[/img]

[chris perra]

i give up me2

you are right,

i am wrong.

that is all.

you've shown me the way


maybe we can design a scorecard so we can all be clear on how much everyone sucks.

presentation
tuning
time
attire
interpretation
colour of drums
too many toms
too few toms
too many fills
too few fills
too easy to figure out where beat one is
cymbals not shiny enough
hardware too bulky
carpet has too plain as design on it


what do ya think?

chris perra

[PencilZ]

Fuse... after my convo with chris i now run the dvd at its normal playback speed.
Vinnie looks alot more fluid than at the Slow motion playback speed that i've been watching it at for the last month but, i kinda feel short changed and casseroled (not enough meat) that, the dvd is over in a couple of hrs instead of the normal 8hrs i'm used to getting out of it.
Oh well, i mustn't grumble.... [img]tongue.gif[/img] [img]wink.gif[/img]

[jesse1]

Hey everyone!

I think Vinnie's playing on the MD2000 Video is excelent. What matters is what YOU like and what YOU get from the video ie. a general statement such as "he is over playing" or "Its not choppy enough" is only valid to a degree of just stating YOUR opinion. What criteria do we use to rate drummers performances? did they score enough points? who made the rules of the game? Wheres the music cops?

The important thing is how great the music is as a whole NOT just the drumming. Ie.look at landou's creative solowing and the interaction of dynamics and all of their abilites to play time perfectly. Can you play 16th note subdivisions (without reading) in time to a sequencer and have it recorded for an audience of thousands.

Also when considering whether the "Choppy" tracks were held back or not, just look at what i think is behind the playlist included:

1.Toast for elli- previously unrecorded .i.e something fresh or perhaps Vinnie thaught it a great take.

2.Im tweeked- markets his solo record.

3.E-minor shuffle- markets document.

Just an opinion,
Jesse